Light ash brown hair with Liese Prettia High Bleach
This is going to be a post about how I achieved a light ash brown hair colour without bleach, using simple products you can buy at the shopping centre. I will also be reviewing Liese Prettia's new colour, "High Bleach" at the end of the post. I spent almost a year trying to figure out how to achieve this colour with one goal in mind: NO BLEACH. I greatly despise the idea of bleaching my hair as the damage will be almost irreversible, especially for long hair. It's pricey at the salon and extremely difficult to do at home alone.
But the light ash brown colour I wanted to achieve 'required' bleach as it was a level 8-9 (as told by numerous salon stylists). It is difficult to lift colour without bleach. But I was determined to try.
If a box of "Lightest Ash Blonde 10.1" that you can get from the supermarkets can lift virgin black hair to a golden brown, wouldn't it make sense that it could lift any hair colour?
But no.... I tried using light ash blonde colour tube mixed with 20 vol peroxide and it made my hair darker. Because apparently ash dyes will cause the hair to become darker due to its silver tones (this was told to me by salon stylists). With this in mind.... I thought about toners but didn't really understand what the product was. But turns out a toner can be anything as long as it corrects the colour. You can tone your hair with dye, with a toner with colour deposit. So I thought.... if ash dyes don't do anything for us asian hair.... then what can? Find outttt moreeeee in this post!
These are some photos of my hair before the dying process. Slightly orange but a fairly light brown.
I used Liese Prettia's High Bleach in my hair and left it in for 40 minutes with a cap, hoping that locking in the heat will help the colour to process better. It's called "High Bleach" but I don't think it has bleach in it at all :/ There is no bleach powder or bleach cream in the box. Afterwards, my hair did not turn out like the hair swatches at all, it was a horrid orangey colour (as expected). You may not be able to see in the above photo because it is wet.
This is where these three fabulous products come in. Pantene's Deep Fortifying Intensive Treatment, Schwarzkopf blonde toner and fudge's paint box. It took my almost a year to figure out how to create an ash colour on asian hair. As you can see, the paint box dye I chose is in Blue Hawaii, the lightest blue that they currently have in their line (available to us in stores anyway) and the blonde toner is purple. The reason why blonde toner is purple is because purple pigments counter/neutralise yellow tones.
This is a colour wheel. It applies to all aspects of art as well as all that primary, secondary, complimentary la-di-da stuff. But if you notice, the colour opposite yellow is purple, the colour opposite orange is blue and the colour opposite red is green. These are the colours that will cancel out/neutralise eachother in hair. That's why blonde toner is purple so it can get rid of yellow undertones. But what do we do with orange hair? Purple doesn't do much for orange hair, kind of gradually turns it into a more yellowy colour (learnt from experience :( ). In Australia, we don't have blue shampoo or things like that. The closest we'll ever get is purple shampoo/conditioner and some silver toners and what not. I've also looked EVERYWHERE and there are no permanent blue dyes. Since brown hair is not as porous as blonde hair, the colour won't be absorbed or as vibrant (eg. dying blonde hair pink will turn out a lot better than dying brown hair pink = pink won't turn up on the brown because it's too dark). With that said, blue dye could be used as a toner for orangey brown hair. I tried this method once with my darker brown hair but it still wasn't light enough to be noticeable. So this is why we need a slight lift, which I used Liese Prettia's High Bleach for. Since Orange itself has some yellow undertones, I used both the blue dye and blonde toner together, mixed with the intensive treatment conditioner with a ratio of 1:1:3. It's up to you how much this ratio is but if your hair is brown, it won't really matter because the colour won't show up unless you have bleached hair. This will only act as a colour neutraliser, not a colour deposit/dye.
I apply this all over my hair and leave it in for another 40 minutes. Make sure to apply this on towel dried hair. As if you had just shampoo'd and you're going to put conditioner in it. These are some photos of the result after I blow dried. Also under different lighting. It's not as ashy as I'd want it to be but it's definitely a major improvement from what I had before. It doesn't actually look that way but it's definitely a lot lighter than my previous hair colour and will take a little getting used to because some parts look green (the effect of ash). Some blonder bits of my hair completely absorbed the colour and have turned a funky blue.
All in all. The Liese Prettia High Bleach did its job in lifting my hair colour. But honestly, do not trust that swatch because NO ONE will get that beautiful golden yellow. It will never happen. Ahahaha. As for smell... well it really really smelled. It stung my eyes. But that's okay we all make these sorts of considerations when dying our hair right? I'll give it 4/5 points overall.
If I hadn't put this blue treatment in my hair it would have been an absolutely horrible orange colour that should not ever see the light of day.
I hope this post was helpful to you, if you have any questions please leave them in the comments and I will definitely get back to you! :) This was all trial and error on my own hair and I can't guarantee that it will work for you but I'm fairly sure it will since the concept is the same. If you're unsure just let me know and I can talk you through it :)
Thank you for reading!
I love the colour of your new hair!! I've tried dying my hair so many times and can never get it to an ashy brown colour :(
ReplyDeleteHi Fifi! Thank you so much!
DeleteHow have you been dying your hair? :o Maybe you can try this out, it might help!
I'm so happy you wrote a post for what we talked about the other day :D Your hair is AMAZING and no wonder, you are so knowledgeable! *DYING* <3
ReplyDeleteThank you!! :D I'm glad you read it! <3
DeleteHi! I soo love the end result of your hair color. :) I'll be experimenting with my hair too and I was just wondering, where were you able to buy the Schwarzkopf blonde toner? I've been trying to search for it online but I can't seem to find it. :( And what products/brands can I substitute for the Schwarzkopf and fudges paint box if worst comes that I really can't find it? :) Thaanks! <3
ReplyDeleteHi Chibabuii! :D Thank you! I bought the Schwarzkopt Blonde toner from priceline. Depending on where you're from, I'm not sure where you'll be able to find it. There's also another product from Schwarzkopt called Nordic Blonde Toner in a blue bottle available at most drugstores and pharmacies.
DeleteTell me where you're from and I'll be able to suggest some products from your area :)
I'm at the US right now. New Jersey to be exact. :) Will the Nordic Blonde Toner deliver the same results as the Schwarzkopf one? And do I also have to combine it with the paint box one as well?
DeleteLast question: What's the safest bleach to use when coloring hair? I tried to use the Nutriese Dark Golden Blonde one last night and it didn't really do anything to my recent hair color, except change it from Reddish Medium Brown to Dark brown with a tint of red. :(
Thanks for the reply. And I'm sorry if I'm asking too much. :))
Nordic Blonde Toner will definitely deliver same results. I've checked the ingredients and they're exactly the same! :) For the best results, I think combining a blue dye would be good, since I don't think the Blonde Toner alone can do much to orange hair. You could try Manic Panic in Bad Boy Blue as a replacement to the paintbox.
DeleteTo be honest there is no 'safest' way to bleach your hair because bleach will always be damaging. You could opt for a peroxide that is 10vol but it would only lengthen the bleaching process as compared to if you were using 40vol, it would bleach your hair very quickly.
It depends on what kind of result you're looking to achieve. Did you want something similar to mine? Or were you looking to go lighter?
The reason why Nutriese Dark Golden Blonde made your hair darker was because dye does not lift colour. Using a blonde dye on brown hair will not lift it to a blonde because it has no bleaching properties. The only way to lift colour from dyed hair is to bleach it.
Nordic does offer some bleaching kits I'm fairly sure you should be able to access them in the US. http://www.beautyheaven.com.au/hair/hair-colour/27139--nordic-blonde-ultimate-lightener-l1
This might be an easier way to bleach your hair because all proportions are measured and I guess all you have to do is purchase the amount of boxes according to the length of your hair. But keep in mind bleaching hair yourself can be a very difficult process and you may need someone to help you.
No don't be sorry! I hope I can be helpful to some extent! Don't hesitate to ask more questions.
Hi again. :) Yes, I was aiming for something similar to yours. Something on the line of being light golden brown to dark blonde. Can you recommend any good products I could use? :) I'm asian too, but I heard it still depends on each individuals hair type.
ReplyDeleteIs the peroxide same as the developer?
Thanks again for your very helpful responses. I appreciate it a lot. :)
Sorry for my late reply! If you're planning to bleach your own hair you should go into your local beauty store and ask for a purple peroxide and blue bleach powder. I'm not sure what brands they have in US but they should have something like that.
DeleteIt really does depend on individual hair type. My hair is fine and susceptible to colour so 20-30vol peroxide is plenty for me. Some people will need up to 40vol to lighten their hair.
Yes peroxide is a developer :)
Hi Ophiie! Sorry for bothering you again. I just wanted to ask, I already went back to the Philippines 2wks ago and I wasn't able to buy the Nordic Blonde Toner while I was at the US. Can I substitute it with the Manic Panic Virgin Snow Toner instead? And if yes, can I do the same procedure as mixing it with the Manic Panic Bad Boy blue and conditioner then apply/leave it on my hair?
DeleteThank you so much for the wonderful advice on hair toning you've given me before. I tried it once and it worked great!
No worries! :) I've never used that toner before but any toner should do the trick! And yes, any sort of blue with conditioner will work :)
DeleteYou're welcome! I'm glad that I was able to help! :D Good luck!
hey can you recommend products that can be found in the US for the toning part? I can't find any of the 3 things you used here in CA :/ your hair looks great btw!
ReplyDeleteHi Lelei, I mentioned in previous comments that there's another toner from Schwarzkopt called Nordic Blonde Toner in a blue bottle available at most drugstores and pharmacies in your area (hopefully). You can also replace the blue dye with Manic Panic Bad Boy Blue. As for the conditioner, you can use any :)
DeleteBrilliant!
ReplyDeleteCan I just use any blue semi-permanent dye and mix with conditioner as a toner? I don't think the Sally's store near me carries Manic Panic in Bad Boy Blue but it does have other shades of blue (Shocking Blue) by the same brand. Would that work? Also can I just skip the purple toner part?
Thanks! :)
Any blue dye should work :) Shocking blue should work as well but if you have lighter hair, it might darken it quite a bit.
DeleteYou may skip the purple toner if necessary :)
The blue dye should just neutralize the orange tones, not make it a different shade right? :O Now I'm scared haha!
ReplyDeleteOh and what's the update on your hair? Did the color need to be maintained with the blue toner after a while?
Thanks for replying ^__^
It will only neutralize the tones. Unless your hair is bleached white, it shouldn't change the colour :)
DeleteI have actually dyed it a few more times after that... first time I went back to black, then to brown and then back to light brown.
I assume if I left it for longer I would have had to tone at least 2 times a week :P would have been annoying haha
So glad I found this post - just tried it and it really did tone down the brassiness. Used manic panic in blue and purple.
ReplyDeleteHow much of the manic panic did you use for your hair? :)
DeleteWhat blonde toner, paint box and conditioner did you use? :)
ReplyDeleteThere are pictures in the blog post that indicate the products used.
DeletePantene's Deep Fortifying Intensive Treatment, Schwarzkopf blonde toner and fudge's paint box. the paint box dye I chose is in Blue Hawaii, the lightest blue that they currently have in their line (available to us in stores anyway)
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DeleteYour hair color looks amazing! I bought a prettia high bleach treatment too and I'm so glad I saw this before I used it!
ReplyDeleteMy hair is darker than your hair before your treatment and is virgin black at the top because of regrowth so I was wondering if I should leave the bleach in longer at the top. Also, would it be better to mix the toner and blue dye treatment together with the prettia bleach color, would it have the same effect?
Thanks! :)
Hello :) thanks for checking out this post! :)
DeleteI can't be too sure since I can't read japanese but it doesn't seem like the product has much bleach in it at all, or if any, a very small amount because it didn't lighten my hair very much.
If you were actually working with bleach, you would normally start at the ends of your hair first because the hair at your roots will be warmed by the heat of your scalp - therefore speeding the bleaching process.
HOWEVER: since it's a foam, it's hard not to just apply just like shampoo. So feel free to take my unprofessional advice, and just apply spontaneously. Just as long as your whole head is covered. Every so often, check in the mirror to see if the colour is okay. I would just put more product at the roots if you were concerned that it wouldn't bleach but chances are; it will so don't worry.
And no. Don't mix the toner/blue dye with the the prettia bleach. These two chemicals do two different t hings and won't do anything to your hair if you use them together. Bleach penetrates the hair cuticle whereas toner sits on the cuticle.
So always tone AFTER :)
Hey! I love the way your hair turned out! But I have a question: I have permanent blue hair dye at home, but how do I mix it for a toner?
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